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Old Jan 21, 2008, 10:30 AM // 10:30   #1
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[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Armor of Sanctity[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

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Scythe 12+1+3
Mysticism 10+2
Earth 8+1

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windwalker, sup vigor and vitae

Mokone said that it lacks basics , what wrong i did ?
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 10:37 AM // 10:37   #2
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swap Aura for another attack skill ie the crippling one... swap armor for convict or whatever and its a lill better but im sorry i think we lost her...
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54   #3
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i use aura for anyone who almost dead and will start to run, then i can end it using pious light and let him bleeding
armor of sanctity for ppl suffering from condition which i have cast like reaper`s sweep, aura of throns or candition i have transfered using plague touch
lastly, my build depends on enchantments for mystic sweep and for bonus energy when enchantment ends
that's my view

sorry for my english
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #4
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what is the purpose of posting here for "feedback" if you are just gonna throw everything he suggested out the window?

back on topic, id take crippling sweep over aura anyday, or bulls strike for that matter
also you might like wounding strike over reapers
if you refuse to ditch all those useless earth skills, at least take mystic regen :P

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:37 AM // 11:37   #5
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i just post my view about build above , so add my 2nd post to main topic
what about this
[skill]mystic sweep[/skill][skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill][skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Armor of Sanctity[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44   #6
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I don't know enough about Dervish to comment on the build itself but please get rid of the sup AND major runes, make them both minors.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46   #7
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Shit build. Moko was right.

Aura of thorns is kinda bad. Armour of sanctity is unneeded. boon + sig of pious is a newbie combo. Wounding strike > reapers, even more so in arenas.

Why ask for feedback on an RA build though? Any build works there, really.

.. the 2nd build is still bad. No IAS added. No need for plague touch, your monks should remove conditions. I know that you may not have a monk in RA - but that's exactly why you don't ask for feedback on a build with RA in mind. Mystic regen should be fuelled by offensive enchantments, not rubbish like boon / sanc.

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07   #8
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Aura of thorns is kinda bad. Armour of sanctity is unneeded. boon + sig of pious is a newbie combo. Wounding strike > reapers, even more so in arenas.
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Why ask for feedback on an RA build though? Any build works there, really.
you contradict yourself, if i can use any build why the above build cannot be "any"

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.. the 2nd build is still bad. No IAS added. No need for plague touch, your monks should remove conditions. I know that you may not have a monk in RA - but that's exactly why you don't ask for feedback on a build with RA in mind. Mystic regen should be fuelled by offensive enchantments, not rubbish like boon / sanc.
what's IAS??and where is monks in RA??i almost dead against any blind/weakness condition skills
and what's the "offensive enchantments"
plz stop talking "shit" if you dont wanna help me, i think i didn't do anything illegal
i have been playing for 1 month, no experiense

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #9
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IAS = Increased Attack Speed, like [skill]heart of fury[/skill]
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20   #10
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You fail at reading, so i guess i'll just repeat everything.

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you contradict yourself, if i can use any build why the above build cannot be "any"
Anything works there, because the level of standard is so low. Meaning, there are plenty of noobs and crap players in RA who can get rolled by mending wammo's.

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and where is monks in RA??i almost dead against any blind/weakness condition skills
Yes there aren't always monks in your team, but GW is a team game which is why you do not design builds for RA. Also, how are you "almost dead" because your attacks miss or do less damage?

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and what's the "offensive enchantments"
IAS or things that improve damage in another way. If this wasn't designed for RA, i could suggest enchantments such as Aura of Holy Might.

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plz stop talking "shit" if you dont wanna help me
Please first understand when people give you help. When they point out bad skills in your build, and suggest better ones: that generally means if you replace the bad skill with the good one your build improves, got it?

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i have been playing for 1 month, no experiense
Then why even bother making a build? With no experience you obviously won't make a good build, so find one that works.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44   #11
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[skill]Mystic sweep[/skill] and [skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill] are always good cause you can spike fast to finish off targets.

[skill]wild blow[/skill] is awesome cause you get a guaranteed critical (and scythe critical hurts), and you remove a stance. You lose all adrenaline, but you don't need it anyway (unless you take [skill=text]rush[/skill] but then just use rush before blow).

Try not to focus on defense, you are supposed to deal damage. If you really need some defense use [skill=text]Conviction[/skill], [skill=text]Watchful Intervention[/skill] is also decent.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57   #12
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Dan has pretty much summed it up, but I'll add my 2p worth anyway.

1. Swap that superior rune for a minor.
2. Like many new PvP players you have constructed a build which is far too defensive in nature, Dervishes should be able to pump out large dmg and kill things quickly-your build cannot do this.
3. No speed boost and though you technically have a snare its a bad one.
4.Drop earth prayers, there is nothing in there worth investing attribute points in.
5.You have no IAS(increased attack speed) nor enough timed attacks to get away with not having one.
6. Do not get to defensive or take personal insult when more experienced players tell you your build is bad, listen to their advice.

If you really want to see what a dervish can do i suggest you take a bit of time to look at the various pvp builds posted in this forum(and the RA thread in the gladiator's arena), i would suggest either Melandru's derv or Conjure/wounding strike spiker as both are powerful and pretty easy to play.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29   #13
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ok, i'll try to fix this but, i don't wanna copy builds
isn't [skill]plague touch[/skill] good as a defensive skill ??

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ok, i'll try to fix this but, i don't wanna copy builds
isn't [skill]plague touch[/skill] good as a defensive skill ??
It's a decent skill, but generally your monks should be keeping you clean. There's got to be a unique skill or a good reason to drop the amazing warrior skills: rush / wild blow / protector's strike / bull's strike / flail.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29   #15
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It's a decent skill, but generally your monks should be keeping you clean. There's got to be a unique skill or a good reason to drop the amazing warrior skills: rush / wild blow / protector's strike / bull's strike / flail.
what can i do with this unique skills while am blinded/or weakened and there is no monk?
i think i should take care of myself alot at RA or i'm wrong
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #16
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what can i do with this unique skills while am blinded/or weakened and there is no monk?
i think i should take care of myself alot at RA or i'm wrong
If you don't have a monk chances are small you'll get 5 consecs anyway. Personally I never think about taking care of myself when making an RA build for my warrior, I kill stuff. When you finally get your precious monk that's not a smiter or 55, you'll have better chances at reaching TA(10+ consecs).

My 2 cents on the matter.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21   #17
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i play with this now

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

every 4/5 rounds i found a blinder and i just run cause there is no monks
any suggestions?? what's the best runes for this one
i think lyssa avatar is good for this build ?

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #18
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i play with this now

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

every 4/5 rounds i found a blinder and i just run cause there is no monks
any suggestions?? what's the best runes for this one
i think lyssa avatar is good for this build ?
this is better, for attribute spead run::
12+1+1 scythe
12+1 myst

a few critiques on the skills.

why heart of holy flame? what is that adding? nothing. lose it.

watchful intervention(and faithful) is a sub-par skill. consider swapping mystic sweep for Victorious sweep. or try Meditation.

it dosnt look to bad, but you are running with no snare or speed boosts. try dropping to
12+1+3 scythe
11+1 myst
and the rest in wind
then add in Harrier's Haste
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42   #19
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i found bull's strike useless without speed boost
so i did this (before i see your post)
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Scythe 12+1+1
Mysticism 12+1
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Pious Haste[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

i think it's more better, but i need another skill instead of mystic sweep with low energy cost

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #20
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pious haste is good to, but it removes Heart of Fury, which is bad.
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